but senator mccain would have gotten 10 to president obama's 11 at the time. >> i think we all should be aware that states have the right to proportion their votes in any way they want. in nebraska, they already do this. it would be hard to be back -- i will tell you this. we're going to fight it tooth and nail in pennsylvania. thai treed they tried to do it before the last election and we beat it back because we scared the local republicans into thinking that there would be savage repercussions from voters around the state. and i think there would. if we're going do do this, play these games, than the popular vote district, that's a law which says that the states pass a law that they'll give their entire electoral votes to whoever wins. that movement is gaining steam. as soon as states with 271 electoral votes sign on, the popular vote controls who wins the election in america, as i believe it should. >> now, madame chair lady, the american prospect reports on what the bill sponsors in virginia said. >>> so the goal is to win elections with less votes. >> reverend, let me just say to